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SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« on: December 14, 2012, 03:05:54 am »
Well the subtitle said "except chao TRAINING," nothing about buying. So fuck you guys.

In my quest to attempt to exploit game mechanics to get an all-S chao as quickly as possible, I decided to do some tests to see how the grades are determined from eggs bought from the shady bastard in the Black Market. The results were fairly interesting. And thank God that I didn't lose any rings when I force-killed the game all those times.

I COULD paste the entire monologue here but that's a lot of pointless text that nobody wants to read and that I don't want to edit, so just have the recap of the important details from my Steam chat.

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10:38 PM - Selphos: Welp
10:38 PM - Selphos: I'm done with my Chao science
10:38 PM - Selphos: I tried hatching two chao in every combination of gardens, twice each
10:39 PM - Selphos: For 8/9 of those experiments, the second attempt did not change the outcome
10:39 PM - Selphos: Most of them were, however, different from each other
10:40 PM - Selphos: With the exception of Dark->Neutral or Dark->Hero any Dark combination besides Dark-Dark
10:40 PM - Selphos: Which was the same as if I used the other garden instead of Dark
10:40 PM - Selphos: The Hero->Neutral combination seemed to change, but I eventually realized it only uses one of two results for the second chao; still don't know why
10:41 PM - Selphos: All of this is completely unaffected by which character is used or which eggs are bought

from IRC a few minutes later:
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<+Selphos> I also did a couple third eggs and those all gave the same results as if they had been the second
<+Selphos> I really don't get this system

Statistical results are as follows.
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Neutral->Neutral: CEBAD->CCCBB
Hero->Hero: BCDBC->DBDBC
Hero->Neutral: BCBDC->CBDBC/ACEBD
Hero->Dark: BCBDC->BCEAD
Neutral->Hero: CEBAD->CEBAC
Dark->Dark: CDDBD->EEACD
Dark->Neutral: CDDBD->CBDBC
Dark->Hero: CDDBD->CEBAC
Neutral->Dark: CEBAD->BCEAD

Hero->Neutral->Dark: BCBDC->ACEBD->BCEAD
Neutral->Dark->Hero: CEBAD->BCEAD->CEBAC
And then I stopped caring.

So basically, whoever developed this system is a douchebag who jumped a few hoops to make Chao raising less savescummable without breeding.
If anybody has anything to add to this topic or correct, go ahead. It still seems odd to me that I'm doing original research on a twelve-year-old game, but I couldn't find anything on this via googling.

Holy shit when was the last time I posted on the forum.
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Re: SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2012, 03:46:10 am »
Yeah. I tried to hatch the eggs when I first got into the garden and they have the ranks for stats pre-set before you even hatch them so there no way to manipulate S-Rank chao. I have an All S-Rank chao anyway from loads of breeding so it's no big deal to me.

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Re: SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2012, 01:21:12 pm »
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Anything! Except chao training.

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Re: SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2012, 02:00:48 pm »
Well the subtitle said "except chao TRAINING," nothing about buying. So fuck you guys.
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Re: SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2012, 02:05:31 pm »
Semantics!
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Re: SA2HD Chao mechanics: Buying eggs from Black Market
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2012, 02:16:46 pm »
Not my fault it's worded as such.

And where else am I going to post my findings? TSSZ?
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